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Interviews with Tutu Alicante

Interviewed January 4, 2011

There’s something called the resource curse. I don’t personally agree that the natural resources should always be a curse. And I launched – I founded EG Justice, the organization I now direct, in 2007 as a way, as a mechanism to start working with other Equatorial Guineans and working with international organizations to shine a light on what was happening in Equatorial Guinea and to help ensure that revenues from oil and the influence from oil could actually help change the regime that we have in Equatorial Guinea today.

There is an example, there is a case of a country that has escaped the resource curse, and that is Norway. It is a case that we all talk about, that we all know exists, but it is incredibly challenging, incredibly difficult to emulate what happened in Norway. I think Norway had the advantage, when oil was discovered in Norway, of already having some democratic institutions in place. In Equatorial Guinea in 1994, in mid-1990s when oil was discovered, we already had a corrupt system in place. We already had a token or a rubber-stamp parliament in place. We already have hand-picked judges running all the judicial system in the country.

We already have a network of cronies in our key positions in government. And emulating what happened in Norway that allowed that country to escape the resource curse was incredibly difficult at that point. Now, having said that, there is something called the Extractive Industry Transparency Initiative, EITI. This was an initiative, which had the support of Norway, initiative launched by actually Tony Blair from the U.K., supported greatly by many countries, including the United States, to help promote transparency in the extractive industry.

That was a platform that people like myself saw as hope for countries like Equatorial Guinea to gradually escape the resource curse. Transparency is fundamental, is essential, a quintessential for a country like Equatorial Guinea to go from where it is today to a place where we can actually use the resources to address poverty.

If people inside a country do not know how much money the government is producing, it is very difficult for people to tell the government that they should be building – what they should be building, schools or hospitals. And once you have that transparency, having the space that allows you to hold government accountable – and by space, I mean a free media, a congress accountable, that has the powers to demand something from the executive branch — all that, and civil society that is engaged, that can get access to budgets and then use those budgets to ask questions – those are the key ingredients that are missing in a place like Equatorial Guinea, to where even with the EII in place, with EG – Equatorial Guinea – signing on to the Extractive Industry Transparency Initiative, within two years they were kicked out of the initiative because they were not meeting the requirements.

Why were they not meeting the basic requirements of engaging civil society and publishing documents? Because there wasn’t a culture in Equatorial Guinea of making documents available and allowing freedom of expression or association.