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Interviews with Bahey El Din Hassan

Interviewed May 20, 2024

I think the main contribution of the human rights groups in Egypt in this critical moment for what´s called the revolution is to help more to consolidate the human rights component of this transition. Because what we witness that the main trend is a belief that just by having an election may be less worse than it was under [Former Egyptian President Hosni] Mubarak. So we would have a better country for life, for human rights and democracy.

As history keeps telling us that democracy was about respecting human rights. It is not enough. I guess that the human rights groups should work more hard on the human rights component, on also what we mean by even democratic system, demand in particular the democratic system, it is not just a mechanism. It is also values. It is democratic structures. But not just celebrating the mechanism, whatever is a component, whatever is a value. And if we keep anti-democratic values with democratic mechanisms, this would lead to nothing.

I guess also that the human rights groups should pay more attention to every new proposal coming from the government, coming from the political parties concerning the transition. There is another job. I am not sure that it is exclusively human rights work. I notice that we have some sort of political vacuum in Egypt. We have the SCAF [Supreme Council of Armed Forces] at the top of the power. We have a very paralyzed government without any serious power, helpless. We have political parties, but without having a consensus on a future agenda for Egypt.

So I guess that this, civil society in general and at the heart — civil society of human rights — should work closely with new political actors to build up or to occupy such a political vacuum and to develop day by day an influential voice on the political process of transition in Egypt.