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Interviews with Khin Ohmar

Interviewed February 8, 2010

Well, our movement is quite broad and, I would say also, quite diverse. And there is this strong commitment and richness in that diversity, I would say. I mean, how broad and diverse and why is because it has to do with the history of our country.

Burma is a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural society. And the history itself, for many decades, already put us in the situation where many ethnic groups have been fighting for self-determination, for the political equality, for so long. But then, if you look at those different ethnic groups, or different ethnic communities, fighting for this political equality, their history also varied.

And they are resistance, or they are equality movement. Also, the time when they start, how they start, are also varied. So you have different groups involved at different times, whereas you can see, like those ethnic equality movements started like 60, 40 years back. 60 or 40 years ago, you know? Depending on what ethnic groups we are talking about. If you talk about the Karen, like Karen people have been fighting for at least 60 years ago.

But then if you look at that, these ethnic groups’ struggle, being more confined in their own struggle, in a way; until the time in 1976, those ethnic groups come together. But again, that’s very confined on the border. It doesn’t connect with the larger population in the country. But then only in 1988, the time when I was involved as a student, that is the time when the whole nation – no matter what ethnicity, what religion, and what class – people joined together as a country, first time ever, to fight against this military dictator, General Ne Win.

So then you have another time of the struggle come and of the movement. Then those of us who fled across the border and joined with those armed groups, they’re the ethnic groups. And then you started to see some national reconciliation, I would say. Because we are a country where all the groups are quite segmented.

There is a deep-rooted mistrust and distrust between and among the different ethnic groups, or the different religious groups, particularly between the Burman majority and non-Burman smaller ethnic minorities, or the larger ethnic minorities. So in that case, we have a long history of this mistrust and distrust already being deep rooted under the successive regimes for so long.

So in that case, you are having a movement that is quite diverse. But in that diversity, are we unified? Our objective, our goal, our approach, and our vision is unified. What we want to achieve is a democratic federal union where democracy is the basic foundation where all the ethnic peoples, no matter what religion and what ethnicity, are also able to enjoy the equal rights.

So in that vision, we are all unified. But if you ask me do we have a different approach? Yes, we still do. You know? Like inside the country, if you look at our movement, whether inside or outside the country, is led by Daw Aung Saw Suu Kyi, and then the other ethnic leaders in the country who are looking for the political dialogue. Whereas it’s supported by all the groups, whether ahm or an ahm.

My point is people need a chance. And if we are given the chance, we will prove that we will coexist very peacefully, and then we will work for democracy, you know, democracy development peacefully. I mean the NLD, like back in 1990, you know, during the election time, National League for Democracy, led by Daw Aung Saw Suu Kyi, won overwhelmingly. But if you look into the NLD, even though, yes, there were political parties who are ethnic-based. But the NLD itself is not ethnic based.

I come from a mix of three major ethnic groups: Burman, Shan, and Mon. And when I approach to any of them is, you know, like if I approach to the Mon, or if I approach to the Shan, I am not accepted as one of them. At the individual personal level, it was very sad for me. You know? Knowing who I am. But at the very head level, I would say I have to really come to understand.

So between my head and my heart, I have to really come to understand of this, like, decades-long deep suffering of the ethnic people under the successive military regimes, which is, in the eyes of the non-Burma ethnic people, are the Burman. So if you are a Karen villager, living in a Karen village, you have a Burmese Army coming and raiding your village, burn down the whole village and rape your women.

In that case, yes, those soldiers are, in your eyes, are Burmans. And of course you hate the Burmans. And this is something I come to really understand, both with my head and also with my heart. And therefore, I am able to react with my head in a very understandable way, very humbly, into that situation.

And there are, you know, as you probably will hear, some people say that, it’s true the successive regimes oppress the ethnic people all along. But we didn’t do it individually. It’s true. I didn’t do anything. But then I have to look to myself of how I lived in my whole life. Even though I come from three major ethnic groups, I am known as the majority Burman. My ethnic identity in Burma is Burman. And therefore, in my whole life, there were no prejudice or no discrimination or oppression against me for being a Burman. I didn’t have that.

On the contrary, I have to understand for the other ethnic people, that is not the case for them. You see? So I realize that when I come to know, I become responsible. Even though I am not the one who commits those atrocities, I come to know, and I have the responsibility to stop those atrocities against the ethnic people.