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Interviews with Ashin Issariya

Interviewed January 8, 2010

Firstly, the monks were very afraid to join our group. Because they are very afraid, and they think, “Okay, when we join your library, your group. The SPDC [State Peace and Development Council, official title for the Burmese military regime] sends us to the jail?”

So at that time, they are very, very afraid. But I explained more and more, and I organized more and more. At that time they were very interested, and I gave political books to them. And then the Pakkoku situation – over 500 monks peace walked on the street. At that time the SPDC tortured, beat the monks a lot.

And then – so we discussed about it, how to do. Now, Pakkoku situation case is our case also, yeah? Because now the military regime beat and tortured a lot. So at that time I wrote in a statement to apologize [about] that case. So at that time a lot of monks are knowing about it. “Okay, we do, we participate; if they don’t apologize, we will participate.” So we gave a date, the 11th of September.

But they never apologized. So some informers followed me. They are watching me. Because they know I opened a library and I do a lot in Mandalay. So at the time they are watching me. And then we discussed, okay we need to give a day more. So at the time we gave in our statement, 17th – the last day is the 17th of September. But the military regime, the SPDC never apologized for that case. So we start, 18th of September 2007, we are reciting boycott letter, Buddha’s teachings. So at the time we recorded, and we sent to the BBC [British Broadcasting Corporation] and the VOA [Voice of America] and the RFA [Radio Free Asia]. At the time they thought, okay, now in Yangon, we start to boycott and peace walk.

So on the 18th, 19th, 20th, we peace walk.At that time a lot of people join more and more. A lot of people joined our movement. And on the 25th day, I got some information that they would shoot our monks. So at that time some leaders discussed with me how to do, what to do. They can shoot and they can beat, [on the] 26th day. But we said, “Okay, even though they shoot or not, it doesn’t matter. We need to peace walk. So on the 26th day we also peace walked.

One group is near the Shwedagon Pagoda. And then they shoot and they beat and they tortured. And I went to that place. But I could not go into that place because it was blocked. And police and soldiers, a lot, blocked. So I wanted to take their photos, but I can’t. Then later we cannot move more. They blocked, blocked every way, so we cannot walk. At the time our leaders discussed with the senior ana [authority].“Okay, we cannot allow more. We need to obey our senior ana’s orders.” So they only gave 10 minutes. “If you don’t go back to your monastery, we will shoot you,” they announced loudspeaker. And they were always talking like that. So at the time we cannot walk more.

We had to go back to our monastery. At night they entered the monastery and they beat and they tortured and they shoot and then they sent some to the jail. On the 26th night, 27th night also, they entered to the monastery. And the 27th, 28th, also the students and a few monks are walking on the street, peace walking. Also they shoot and beat and torture. They caught a lot of students, a lot of monks. Threw them into the jail. And then, 28th evening, one of my brothers came to the monastery. My brother told me, “Okay, our mother’s message to you: ‘You need to move to another place. You need to hide in this time. Because which monastery they will enter or not, you don’t know. If they enter your monastery, you can be arrested – at that time you cannot work more. You need to hide in this time.’” So at that time I’m thinking okay, I decided to hide.