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Interviews with Andrzej Celinski

Interviewed May 20, 2024

I studied sociology at the University of Warsaw. My diploma is signed by Professor Stefan Nowak, a world-renowned sociologist. He lectured on numerous occasions at Stanford, at Yale, a truly outstanding sociologist, now also deceased for a number of years. But after my first year of college in 1968, I was removed from University, because of my participation in something called the March Events. This was a kind of rebellion by the cultured circles of the country, against censorship, against restrictions on freedom. So I was thrown out of college in my first year.

Incidentally as the only first-year student to be thrown out then. And I studied for a short time at the Catholic University of Lublin (KUL), which was the only place in Poland at the time. It was a private university and, interestingly, the only Catholic college operating in the Eastern Bloc. So in no other country of the so-called people’s democracies of Europe was there any Catholic university, nor any private schools, really. It was the only private Catholic university in the Soviet bloc. But I only studied there for a brief time, because after one year my right of enrollment at the University of Warsaw was returned to me. So I graduated from university.

I was also lucky in a way because of one of the professors of sociology who occupied position number three in my professorial ranking. Nowak was first, Szacki was 2nd, and Adam Podgórecki was third, specializing in sociology of law. And even while I was still in enrolled, so relatively early, he offered me a sort of informal assistantship at the university. This is significant in that is a kind of position at the university in the social sciences, which required approval from the provincial committee of the Communist Party.

Having been a student active in the March Events, I had no chance at all of getting that kind of approval, to get hired at the University. But then because I was a student and initially got some kind of technical position, then we were able to, my professor was able to skirt these restrictions. He was very right-wing in his outlook, I would say even nationalistic, he was an absolute anti-Communist. So then I got this job and for a while I was able to work, and relatively soon the authorities got wind that I was where I was. And so I was thrown out of University, already as an employee, in the year of 1977, effectively. Because I had put up quite a long fight, I was a unionist, and I had legal protection in that regard.

It was the same university chancellor who had thrown me out in 1968. A Mr. Zygmunt Rybicki, law professor. So he was the one that I sat and faced. So then afterwards, I returned to the University in 1981 – no, 1980, after the August strikes [at the Lenin Shipyard in Gdansk]. So that would be it as far as my early youth is concerned.