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Interviews with Khin Lay

Interviewed May 20, 2024

For me, we are very small and new. It is very local and very small. But there are some nationwide organizations. There are many NGOs [non-governmental organizations], international NGOs, and also U.N. [United Nations] agencies. And there are some women’s organizations who work since a long time ago, but they mainly focus on development, and health issues, and like that. But that’s why women are not really connected with the health issues and the education issues. We also relate it to all issues, like politics is our issue.

Economy is our issue. And all the issues are related to women. So we try to give knowledge to the women. But some are only focused on health, education, parenting, childcare, like that. So there are many organizations who have very long experience for their organization. But one of the problems in our country for the civil society is registration. You know, we don’t have a proper NGO law to protect civil society. In 1988, there was a law, NGO law passed, but the NGO law is to restrict and oppress the civil society, not to threaten to the authorities, the regime. So the NGO law is very unfair, not updated.

That’s why now some of the NGOs and civil society are trying to draft the new NGO law. So, you know, one of the rules in the NGO law is that civil society people must be apolitical. So – and this is very ridiculous at that moment, at that situation. So I came from politics and so most people were interested in politics but it shouldn’t be like that, divided [into] apolitical and political. So we believe that it is not fair. That’s why we try to change this NGO law. And also, again, registration fee is one of the constraints for our – like our – like small civil society.

The registration fee is a little bit higher. I don’t know how to say that in our terms, 50,000 kyats – 500,000 kyats [The kyat is the Burmese currency. 50,000 – 500,000 kyats is roughly equal to 50 – 500 U.S. dollars.] for the registration fee. So it’s unaffordable for the small ones because, you know, normally, we are paying from our own pocket. So we are self-funded by ourselves. So it’s not proper way, I believe that. And about the international assistance is that I have been to the United States last year [2012] to attend the National Endowment for Democracy [a nonpartisan democracy promotion organization] annual donors meeting.

At that meeting there many donors came. And we requested to the donors that – at that moment, social assistance especially for education and health is very effective for our country. But if you want to help us [do] not go through the U.N. [United Nations] agency or the big NGOs [non-governmental organizations], you should go through the local NGOs, the very basis of a society so it will be more effective to support our people.

As you know, all the grants and assistance go to the very big NGOs. But in practice, the active actors are on the ground, but they don’t know how to write a proposal, how to write a financial report, and they have a language barrier, and they are not registered. That’s why our people, young people and our active civil society [organizations] are very far away from the international assistance. That’s why now, some of the international donors understand very well about the situation and they try to help and to reach the ground. And, now, some of the NGOs like IRI [International Republican Institute], NDI [National Democratic Institute], and other big NGOs came in and they tried to set up an office, and also they’re trying to give the capacity building to the – to our activists and civil society.

Now, they have already started their projects. Yet, for the financial assistance for the civil society is still challenging for the real grassroots civil society, because, you know, there are many constraints to get them. And they don’t have access to information, where the grant is, how to apply, and where’s the grant application they can get or – they don’t know anything about it. So that’s why we are thinking to help the civil society on the ground, how we can help and bridge to the international donors and civil society. We are thinking to such kind of – how can I say – the bridge, if we can make, is very beneficial for our people.