• Ladies, First Podcast

  • March 5, 2018

    Ep. 1 A Role Without a Rulebook

    From Martha Washington to Melania Trump, each first lady has changed, and is changing, the role for the first ladies that follow them. We chatted with Anita McBride, executive-in-residence at the Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies in the School of Public Affairs at American University and Mrs. Bush’s former chief of staff, about navigating the role without a rulebook. Join us as we celebrate their leadership, their journeys, and the evolution of the role of first ladies.


Natalie Gonnella-Platts

Deputy Director, Women's Initiative
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Anita B. McBride

Fellow, Women's Initiative
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